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    Playstation with dw4 rolling play side what been money all year. Why in the world wasn't that the call with the game on the line at 3rd and 4?!
     
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    Fuck that motherfucker. He cost them the Patriots game and this game doing the same stupid ass, conservative bullshit that all shitty coaches do. Third and 4 for the ball game and you run up the fucking gut versus Seattle? With a fucking QB who has gone for 400/50+ already. Fuck this clown.
     
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    Bill Obrien is a big ol' Bill Obitch.
     
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    Smith-Schuster just had a 97 yd td and has 5 catches for 175 yds. Bryant may stay on the practice squad.
     
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    Dabo said that anyone that passes on Deshaun is passing on Michael Jordan. He truly meant it.
     
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    The tweet doesn't address whether it counted or not.

    Jets were called for a false start on the play which negated them even looking at it to see if he picked it off. The false start had a 10 second runoff that ended the game.
     
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    I’m not sure if it was the Arena-Football-like 952 passing-rushing yards between Russell Wilson and Deshaun Watson … or cumulative effect in the second half of this game of tie, Texans lead, tie, Seahawks lead, Texans lead, Seahawks lead, Texans lead, Seahawks lead, Seahawks win … or Jimmy Graham and Wilson meeting on the sidelines after the game-winning pass and the boom mike catching them making this collective sound at their top of their lungs: “AHHHHHHHHHHOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!” … or maybe the seven or eight heartfelt seconds Richard Sherman embraced Watson, the new great lion among NFL quarterbacks after only six starts, a sign of true respect by a cornerback who does not give respect easily.

    “What’d you say to Watson?” I asked Sherman two hours after the game.

    “I’ll tell you,” Sherman said. “‘You played the best game any quarterback has ever played against us, and we’ve played all the legends. I respect how you hung in there and kept battling and battling.’”

    Think of that: The nucleus of this defense (Sherman/Thomas/Chancellor/Wagner) has been together since 2012, and it has played Tom Brady three times and Aaron Rodgers five times in those six seasons. Richard Sherman told Watson his game Sunday was better than any of those eight games Brady and Rodgers have played against Seattle since then.

    And Watson lost Sunday. The winner played the game of his professional life. This was Wilson’s 99th NFL game, regular season and playoffs, and it was his first 400-yard passing game. He threw for 453, which is 68 yards more than his previous best.

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    Wilson made sure he found Watson on the field after the game. “He’s a special, special player, and I’m going to love watching him play in the next few years,” Wilson said. “He was so good today, so special. I told him on the field, ‘God is good. Keep putting the hard work in. It’ll keep showing.”

    .........

    Maybe Watson studied Wilson playing hurt. He was doing it too. Sherman was impressed that, late in the third quarter, Watson seemed to hurt his ankle or calf, and it didn’t affect how he played the rest of the game. During a TV timeout, Sherman went to Watson and told him, “Hang in there! Ain’t no time to come out of the game!’”

    Said Sherman: “My God, Houston’s so lucky. By next year, he’s going to be a top five quarterback in this league, and that includes the two big dogs [Brady and Rodgers]. He makes you dig to the deepest part of your competitive juices to beat him.”

    You know the biggest shame of this day? Because the NFL schedules cross-conference games once every four years, barring a Super Bowl meeting, Wilson and Watson won’t meet again till they play in Houston … in 2021. So keep this game on the DVR. Cue it up on some ugly February or March day. Maybe you’ll yell at the TV the same way you did Sunday.
     
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    Let's go rip some throats
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    Goodness. Reading that the dislocation severed the artery. Prayers to him.
     
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    Nuk's "FIFA" TD celebrations...:blessit:
     
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    http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/pag...ll-obrien-houston-texans-trust-deshaun-watson

    The best parts:

    NFL's unsolved mysteries through Week 8: Why doesn't









    Bill O'Brien trust

    Deshaun Watson?
    In this most impenetrably weird of NFL seasons, all kinds of mysteries remain unsolved. There are breakouts nobody seems to trust, stars on unexpected declines and great teams with major quarterback questions that don't seem to be going away. New coaches have sparked breakthroughs while last year's breakthroughs have been frustrated by struggling coaches. Ask around the league and you'll get about four teams everyone can agree are good, four that are bad and 24 teams that might still be total mysteries as we hit Halloween.

    Let's take a closer look at some of those unsolved mysteries, several of which played out even further in Week 8. And let's start with arguably the game of the year, where the Texans took the Seahawks to the limit and then let them off the hook:

    Why doesn't Bill O'Brien trust Deshaun Watson with the game on the line?
    [​IMG]While it's still impossible to understand why O'Brien began the season with Tom Savage as his starting quarterback, the Texanscoach deserves a ton of credit for what he has done since inserting Watson into the lineup. O'Brien has shifted his offense to play to Watson's strengths and reduce the rookie's adjustment time, adding option concepts out of the Clemson playbook to a scheme that employed the option just twice last season.



    The results have been laudable and revelatory. Watson's abilities as a runner have opened up holes for Lamar Miller & Co. in a previously moribund rushing attack, while the threat of Watson as a runner has slowed down pass-rushers who might otherwise have zealously attacked a middling set of Texans tackles. O'Brien also has added new wrinkles to the game plan every week to keep opposing teams on their toes. The results have been staggering: When you combine his effectiveness as a passer and runner, Watson's Total QBRcurrently stands at 81.8, the best mark in the league.

    On Sunday, it focused on a package built first around a play-fake and Watson motioning to his left, where he also would have the ability to throw a swing pass (which he didn't do). The Texans then gave Watson a series of different looks, including a speed option that earned Houston a fourth-quarter first down. Most notably, the series set up the Texans for two big downfield passes to Will Fuller V, the first of which produced Fuller's second touchdown of the day.

    Defenses have to be terrified to line up against Watson snap after snap, which makes O'Brien's decision-making late in games even more curious. Twice now, O'Brien has gotten conservative when his team has been close to a huge victory on the road. In Week 3, facing a struggling Patriots defense, O'Brien elected to kick a field goal with 2:28 to go on fourth-and-1 from the Patriots' 18-yard line in lieu of putting the ball in Watson's hands. The Texans went up by five points, only for Tom Brady to march down the field for a game-winning touchdown to break Houston hearts.

    Given that the Patriots game was really Watson's first breakout performance, maybe the Texans weren't ready to place the game in their rookie quarterback's hands. Given that Watson's offense had averaged 36 points per game over the three ensuing weeks and sliced up the Seahawks for 507 yards and 38 points heading into a critical third-and-short, it seemed unlikely that O'Brien would make another mistake.

    Instead, after running that aforementioned speed option for a first down on the previous possession, O'Brien got conservative. With everyone and their mother calling for Watson to get on the edge and reduce the Seahawks defenders to quivering messes, O'Brien called for the same motion with Bruce Ellington sprinting out of the slot and into the backfield, and Watson ... handed the ball to Miller on a plunge against an eight-man box. Sheldon Richardson shed the oft-frustrating Xavier Su'a-Filo and made a relatively easy play in the backfield, stopping the Texans after 2 yards, at which point Houston punted.

    took the blame after the game, saying, "I made some bad playcalls today, and I just have to do a better job on game day."

    Seahawks fans must have breathed a sigh of relief when they saw Watson, who had seemed several steps ahead of Pete Carroll's defense for most of the game, hand off the ball. They must have felt even better when the punt unit came on. I don't suspect O'Brien ever gave it a moment of serious thought, but in a four-point game with his defense being shredded downfield, it might even have been the right move for O'Brien to keep his offense on the field and go for it on fourth-and-2 from his own 28-yard line, knowing that a first down would have ended the game. (That's not hindsight, either.)

    As it was, the Seahawks marched downfield in three plays. By the third, a Texans defense that had been chasing Wilson around all day and holding up in coverage 30-plus yards downfield fell apart. It's probably hindsight to wonder whether O'Brien should have been willing to stop the clock and call a timeout with 27 seconds to go, but watch Seattle's game-winning touchdown and you'll see a defense that is both physically and mentally exhausted. The pass rush is moving in slow motion. The defense behind it blows a coverage, leaving Jimmy Graham totally uncovered up the seam on a go route.

    O'Brien is coaching like he has the 2014-2016 Texans, who had a great defense propping up a suspect offense. The opposite is true here, especially with Houston down J.J. Watt, Whitney Mercilus and Brian Cushing. It has cost his teams two games that would have gone down as statement victories, road wins over perennial Super Bowl contenders. Maybe the Seahawks would have sniffed out Watson on the edge. We're not looking back at O'Brien's decision as egregious or part of a worrisome trend if the Texans hold up on second-and-20 or third-and-18 against the Patriots. In a suddenly competitive AFC South, though, the Texans are going to look back and wish they had trusted their franchise quarterback just a tiny bit more with the game on the line.


    Annnnnnd



    Is DeAndre Hopkins the best wide receiver in football?
    [​IMG]The most damning thing I can say about the Brock Osweiler era in Houston is that his black hole of mediocrity managed to suck in Hopkins for an entire season. After suffering through a totally anonymous 2016 season, Hopkins has turned things on with Watson at quarterback. Sunday was the receiver's best game of the season: Hopkins turned his 11 targets into eight catches and 224 yards, including a 72-yard touchdown that saw him run through most of the Seahawks' defense on a screen, breaking Kam Chancellor's ankles along the way.

    Hopkins has become a target hog in the Texans' offense; his 75 targets are third in the league to Antonio Brown, who paces the NFL with a whopping 92. His numbers commensurately rank among the league leaders as well; Nuk is now third in the league behind Brown and Adam Thielen with 606 receiving yards and tied for the league lead alongside Fuller with seven touchdown receptions.

    had more than five heading into this week. The 97 yards he has generated on those calls was tied for the league lead coming into the week with Brown and Demaryius Thomas. Throw those seven conversions into the pile and Hopkins has generated 40 first downs for his team, narrowly topping Brown for the league lead.

    We don't think about Hopkins as being on the same tier as Brown, but it's becoming clearer and clearer that much of that difference had to do with the quality of his quarterbacks. Brown has spent his career with Ben Roethlisberger. Julio Jones has been working with Matt Ryan. Before 2017, Hopkins had been thrown passes by Osweiler, Brian Hoyer, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Ryan Mallett, Case Keenum, Matt Schaub, Tom Savage, T.J. Yates and Brandon Weeden. Hopkins' predecessor in Houston, Andre Johnson, had to spend his career propping up Schaub and a series of similarly middling quarterbacks. Here's hoping we get to see Hopkins and Watson together for a long time.
     
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    That stat about Nuk and the PI calls is insane though.
     
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    Con. Sis. Tent.
     
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    That's insane. He's legit just going to do his thing no matter where he's playing. If That coach wants to win Super Bowls he should just get the fuck out of the way
     
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    Texans traded probably their best OL today. He had held out of every game except Seattle anyway, but that shitty O line certainly doesn't need to be trading starters.
     
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    You know Dabo is prone to hyperbole, but I'll be danged if his "passing on Michael Jordan" take isn't spot on so far.
     
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    67 yd td for Sammy
     
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    Nuk 34 yd td
     
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