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Discussion in 'DVU' started by Tigers, Apr 7, 2015.
Lets not merge this with anything this season....
This is the best one yet
Just showed DW's leap into the endzone on the ESPYs opening sequence.
Apparently DW has been fully cleared.
Just saw that also.
Didn't Streeter say this morning he wasn't cleared?
He did. I don't necessarily believe everything I read or see on espn
The subtlety, the execution .....that's just outstanding work
Took me a minute to notice it... gf thought I was crazy when I busted out laughing in the bar
Wow. One week in, not sure DVU will see a better post
I assume it's a watch list of one
Pete Fiutak says Brissett and Golson are better QB's than Watson...and so are all 3 QB's at Ohio State. LOL....
SIAP but Pete Fiutak seems to think that DW4 is not even the best QB in his own division.
DAMN IT @The QCT! :adamnyou:
The comment was so dumb, that it should be posted twice...and saved to throw back in the moron's face after the NCST and FSU games.
That's hilarious. Nobody they mentioned is in the same stratosphere as a passer as DW. Cardale Jones? Holy shit.
Jones isn't even the best QB on his team. Barrett > Jones
Barrett is really good. I think Cardale just caught lightning in a bottle.
I can't envision Cardale even being drafted as a QB. He's built and moves like a TE, and probably catches like one. He's nowhere near the passer the league is looking for.
Jones was the lucky recipient of an amazing 3 game stretch by Ezekiel Elliott and a great defensive performance.
was a red shirt Sophomore (meaning he was in year 3) who could not beat out red shirt Freshman JT Barrett and earn the back-up role. The main reason was because he couldn't understand and grasp the offense. The 2nd reason he was a gun-slinger and inaccurate. Meyer did not have to dumb-down or change the offense when Miller went down in order for Barrett to become effective - but he did with Jones. Very telling.
Regarding his statistics during that 3 game stretch that you cited above. 46/75 (61%) for 742 yards and a 5/2 TD/INT ratio. That's a passer rating of 105.5 Again, fine stats and fine wins.
- The defense pitched a shut out and forced 4 Wisconsin TO's including a fumble return for a TD by Bosa. That is your story.
- However, tOSU did have 4 rushing TD's and 301 total rushing yards...including a 220 yard, 11 YPC, 2 TD performance from Ezekiel Elliott.
- 18 passing attempts to 38 rushing attempts tells you where Meyer had his confidence.
- A running game like that opens up a lot of play action opportunities for Jones.
- There isn't a QB in the country who could screw up with a defense that performed like that, and a rushing game behind him that was that dominating.
- Jones was efficient given the running game's success combined with the controlled passing game Meyer gave him to run.
- Ezekiel Elliott rushed for 230 yards, 11 YPC and 2 TD's. Again running Alabama's D over all night and setting up the play action.
- Ohio State rushed for 281 yards.
- tOSU Defense forced 3 turn overs.
- Jones was 18/35 for 243 YDS, 1 TD, 1 INT and a 54.7 QBR. 54.7 (which is mediocre).
- Ezekiel Elliott took home the MVP honors.
- Ezekiel Elliott rushed for 246 yards and 4 TD's.
- tOSU rushed for 296 yards.
- Jones was 16/23 for 242 YDS, 1 TD 1 INT 7 and a 59.3 QBR (which is pedestrian).
- Jones 1 TD pass was a 1 yard pass; which was set up by a punt return to the Oregon 46; 23 rushing yards by Elliott; and a pass interference call that put the ball on the Oregon 1 yards line.
- Scoring drive #3 included a 45 yard pass set up by the running game.
- Scoring drive #4 was a 12 play drive which included 8 rushing plays.
- Scoring drive #5 was a 8 play drive which included 6 rushing plays.
- Scoring drive #6 was a 5 play drive which included 5 rushing plays.
- Surprise, surprise, Ezekiel Elliott was the MVP.
In 3 games, Elliott won 2 MVP's rushing the ball 76 times for 696 YDS, 9.15 YPC and 8 TD's. That, my friend, blows away what Jones did during that stretch. The running game, and it's success was used to set up everything Jones did. Barrett has the ability to sit in the pocket and pick a defense apart - Jones does not. He is a 1 read and go kid with little aptitude to read defenses - which is why Meyer made it as easy as possible with the aid of a great ground game.
During that "great stretch" that you say Jones had, he had a RAW QBR of 58.7...good for 103rd in the country. He was 55th in adjusted QBR with a 70.6. Not very efficient numbers.
- JT Barrett was 2nd in the nation in qualified QBR (86.7) and 11th in overall adjusted QBR, and 14th in raw QBR (83.0).
Barrett > Jones
I know Cardale Jones is a physical freak, I get that. I also know that scouts are intrigued by that physical stature and strength. But acting like he is some amazing QB is absolutely revisionist history and selective memory. He played his best vs Wisconsin and had a great defense forcing 4 TO's and a great running game behind him. He then went on to be mediocre but doing just enough behind an amazing running game and solid defense to lead the Buckeyes past Alabama and Oregon. I will give him credit for doing what it takes and winning the natty.
Alright, back to the future GOAT, Watson.
Jones= J. Russell
Oh, I agree. I wasn't trying to say he is the reason OSU won the Natty. I was trying to say he got lucky. Elliot was a man during the playoffs and Jones benefitted from it. It would have been interesting to see our D from last year face OSU w/ Jones at QB1. Anyway back to discussing the third best QB in the Atlantic Div. :myaoface:
Brissett is just laughable.
That's like reading a Morrell post. Those guys are just fucking dumb
ROFL @ Watson having any sort of slump and somehow being worse than Brissett and Golson. Did that fucktard even watch ND last year? What a dumbass.
i just want to note that i've long thought this was the best gif on the internet